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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2009
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    I would say that the steel Dolan is actually a Faggin frame rebranded as a Dolan.

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2009
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    steel "dolan" went for £82.00 in the end. I didn't stick anything on it.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    Any of you guys noticed this? Any opinions? I'm really looking for a cheap decent frame, but maybe getting something like this would actually work out cheaper than buying everything separately... can't really afford it anyway, and its too big, but still....

    http://glasgow.gumtree.com/glasgow/30/35769930.html

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    That bike is pretty customised as it is. The cranks alone are worth a quarter of the price second hand. If it is indeed £450 then it is a good price.

    How tall are you? A 58cm bike fits a six footer at least.

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    > Sugino 75 cranks with MKS Silvan quill pedals,Toe clips
    > Sugino 75, 46 tooth chain ring
    > Miche 18 tooth sprocket and carrier
    > Miche sealed bearing bottom bracket
    > Izumi Gold chain

    all expensive stuff, not bad for the price.

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    that surly is a very nice price! almost worth buying it then sorting a new frame for all the bits....

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    Yeah. Though I'm sure I've seen the bike on gumtree before. Somethings a bit iffy about it.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    Yeah, it looks like they've done it nicely so there's not much I'd change at all. It's too big for me, though, shame. I'm 5'6 and 9 stone (and female).

    One frame size chart I saw had 5'6 to 5'9 for a 56" (it's 56, I think), but that's wrong according to all the others. I'm grasping at straws, I think, cos it's so pretty...

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      CommentAuthorislipaway
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    I'd say that's one ugly bike, Mainly the saddle/stem/bars combo is hideous. Lots of awesome bits down the bottom half though. Probably worth the money to just sell the bits you don't like cause it could quite easily be gorgeous.

    edit: but it seems you think the opposite so never mind!

    As for size I am 5' 8-9 and ride a 54cm and am quite comfortable... If you want a shot of a 54 gis a shout. Recall from earlier post you stay near queens park, as do I so easily done.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    Yeah, I would definitely change the bars and saddle. i like the rest tho'. Cheers for the offer! I might take you up on that.

    Sounds like a 56 is way too big anyway.

    Never see any other cyclists in Queen's Park, it's weird...

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      CommentAuthorislipaway
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    Lassies tend to have longer legs though, it's more crotch height over top tube that's important than actual height.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    I wear 30 inch length jeans if that helps...?

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      CommentAuthorislipaway
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    You'd might get away with it I reckon. It would be on the big side of comfortable but that might suit, contact points can be adjusted so wouldn't be over stretched. It's quite a bit of money for something that's not quite perfect though. Who knows! I am little help. Another factor is how high the bottom bracket is off the ground cause the tube is measured from the centre of the BB to the top of the seat tube a higher BB which is typical of track bikes makes the top tube higer and the standover height different to regular road bike sizing guides.

    In short you just have to try different sizes till one feels right.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    thanks very much, that's a big help. It's probably too much of a risk... still keep looking at it, mind :)

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      CommentAuthorkrakow
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    euan:Yeah. Though I'm sure I've seen the bike on gumtree before. Somethings a bit iffy about it.

    It's been on many times. Not sure what the story is, as it seems unlikely that they'd be truly unable to sell it at that price.

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    not in my size, and realy pricy for an ebay frame anyway. nevermind!

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    I'm a 30" leg. My Mercian was 56cm and standover was nuts hugging. I'm riding a 52cm now and it is much more comfortable.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    Bank_street_baller:im real tempted by this

    Katana Frame

    Nice frame. Cavendish Cycles in London sell them.

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      CommentAuthorconn artist
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    rabsda:There's another dolan frame that's big (60cm ct) as well that i'm going to go for if I loose the first one...

    any idea how much this sold for?

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      CommentAuthorGeorge
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    £227!

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    George:£227!

    well worth it in my eyes.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    euan:I'm a 30" leg. My Mercian was 56cm and standover was nuts hugging. I'm riding a 52cm now and it is much more comfortable.

    52 sounds about right for me then, even without the nuts :)

    But after a hungover afternoon of reading nothing but bike forums, I think I've abandoned the idea of buying someone else's custom-made anyway. I'm leaning towards getting an otp and changing bits and bobs as I go – at least that way while I'm inexperienced with fgs the chances of making any howling mistakes will be minimised...

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    plurabelle:I'm leaning towards getting an otp and changing bits and bobs as I go – at least that way while I'm inexperienced with fgs the chances of making any howling mistakes will be minimised...

    Might I suggest the Fuji Track. I've got a 54cm which you can try out if you want. I'd suggest a 52cm though.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    Thanks rusty! Nice of you.

    It's definitely on the short shortlist, and financially makes the most sense seeing as I'm a skint just-post-student, but I'm also becoming rather violently attracted to the bianchi pista....

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    plurabelle:Thanks rusty! Nice of you.

    It's definitely on the short shortlist, and financially makes the most sense seeing as I'm a skint just-post-student, but I'm also becoming rather violently attracted to the bianchi pista....

    That's a nice bike too. Comes with much better components. I originally wanted one of them but ended up with the Fuji because I was skint.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009
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    rusty:531

    Awesome double butted Levis.

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      CommentAuthorSoweto888
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    plurabelle:Any of you guys noticed this? Any opinions? I'm really looking for a cheap decent frame, but maybe getting something like this would actually work out cheaper than buying everything separately... can't really afford it anyway, and its too big, but still....

    Hello. Can I ask a wee question? Do you want a bike to ride in all weathers or something to turn heads? If it's the former, I'd steer well clear of bikes like that Surly and anything else in the same price bracket. Glasgow winters aren't easy on metal parts. The salt gets everywhere and the components nearest to the ground lose their luster sharpish, even if you clean and degrease regularly. Spend 500 quid on a bike like that and you'll end up scared to take it over the door between October and April.

    Maybe you could take up the offers above, try a few bikes and get a better idea of what size you're looking for. Then arm yourself with a measuring tape and start searching on eBay. Ask sellers for the standover height (top tube to the ground) and the seat tube length. You can find something that's a good fit in this way, and it's definitely possible to pick up a bargain online if you're patient and search regularly. A road bike conversion for under £200 might be a good place to start. That would let you ride and decide exactly what's for you before parting with big bucks. Read this forum, read the London forum, ask questions, look at photos and you'll learn to sort the wheat from the chaff in no time at all.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2009 edited
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    Hello. Can I ask a wee question? Do you want a bike to ride in all weathers or something to turn heads? If it's the former, I'd steer well clear of bikes like that Surly and anything else in the same price bracket. Glasgow winters aren't easy on metal parts. The salt gets everywhere and the components nearest to the ground lose their luster sharpish, even if you clean and degrease regularly. Spend 500 quid on a bike like that and you'll end up scared to take it over the door between October and April.

    Maybe you could take up the offers above, try a few bikes and get a better idea of what size you're looking for. Then arm yourself with a measuring tape and start searching on eBay. Ask sellers for the standover height (top tube to the ground) and the seat tube length. You can find something that's a good fit in this way, and it's definitely possible to pick up a bargain online if you're patient and search regularly. A road bike conversion for under £200 might be a good place to start. That would let you ride and decide exactly what's for you before parting with big bucks. Read this forum, read the London forum, ask questions, look at photos and you'll learn to sort the wheat from the chaff in no time at all.

    All sounds sensible. Thanks.

    I want a fg to run alongside my other bike, initially, but I can foresee myself ending up going over wholesale. My hybrid's old, and kind of fucked - this summer I cycled 50 miles a day for two weeks on it and its not been the same since. I figure if I get another bike I can alternate them etc, use the hybrid in bad weather. I cycle every day, probably an average of 8 miles, more at the weekend. I want a fg because I had a go on one very briefly and loved it – they suit the way I ride, as I hardly ever use gears as it is. Just seems like the next step, really - I've been cycling forever.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2009
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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

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    rusty:If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

    if i didn't already have tons of stuff i'm not using, i'd be tempted by that......

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    johnnyhotdog:

    rusty:If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

    if i didn't already have tons of stuff i'm not using, i'd be tempted by that......

    Speaking of tons of stuff you're not using. I was tempted to blow my recent cash injection on a MKS RX-1s, MKS Clips and Fujitoshi double straps. Have you decided on your pedals for the Bob Jackson yet?

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    rusty:

    johnnyhotdog:
    rusty:If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

    if i didn't already have tons of stuff i'm not using, i'd be tempted by that......

    Speaking of tons of stuff you're not using. I was tempted to blow my recent cash injection on a MKS RX-1s, MKS Clips and Fujitoshi double straps. Have you decided on your pedals for the Bob Jackson yet?

    Not yet. I have some of these:

    With these (yes, they are NJS!)

    and these:

    but.....i much prefer riding clipless and i saw some very handsome shoes:

    so, i'm still decididing what i should do.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    Those shoes are indeed very handsome. Do it!

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    rusty:Those shoes are indeed very handsome. Do it!

    well.....in that case, i think these might be on the horizon:

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    i'm tempted by that. The guy has a fairly good rating so I'd guess it is legit. Probably too short for me though 165mm

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009 edited
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    rabsda:i'm tempted by that. The guy has a fairly good rating so I'd guess it is legit. Probably too short for me though 165mm

    Maybe these will interest you then.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (172.5mm) + Chainring (48T)

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    I'm tempted by the 75s for sure now though.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
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    I decided last night that I'd rather some tasty Dura Ace 7600 cranks. Finding a BB for them is difficult thought becuase with 7610 they changed to an octalink BB. When the Yen learns its place and goes back down I'll maybe look into it again.

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    rusty:I decided last night that I'd rather some tasty Dura Ace 7600 cranks. Finding a BB for them is difficult thought becuase with 7610 they changed to an octalink BB. When the Yen learns its place and goes back down I'll maybe look into it again.

    I have the dura ace pista on my track bike......you should get some........they are very, very good.

    i'm not sure how long it will take the yen to sort itself out though.......

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009 edited
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    rusty:If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

    someone bought it now £125 a steal i'd say.

    I'm going to go for the other ones listed just now, a bit longer so better for me.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2009
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    I stucke a snipe in on this.

    Didn't win though. The guy had advertised it recently for £110 and it didn't sell, this time I stuck in a snipe of £106. He had been selling it in autumn last year and there wasn't much interest then, I had emailed him an offer at the time and he said he was wanting £135 and would wait until spring. It just came into my head the other day so I did a search and saw it was for sale again, I am a bit disappointed and relieved that I didn't get it.

    It's a good example of a badly advertised bike as he had been advertising it as Aluminium, it is a Zeus frame so more than likely 531, some of the components were low grade but Cinelli bars and stem and had mudguards and I need a new pair. It would be great if there were bikes like this at the Police Auctions but from what I saw the last time, very unlikely.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009 edited
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    rabsda:

    rusty:If this is for real then someone's getting a great deal.

    Sugino 75 Cranks (165mm) + Chainring (49T)

    someone bought it now £125 a steal i'd say.

    I'm going to go for the other ones listed just now, a bit longer so better for me.

    Well done rabsda. The proud owner of a set of Sugino 75 cranks. £123 too. That's £2 cheaper than the other pair. Nice.

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009
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    now i need to find an ISO 109mm Bottom bracket.

    looking like Sugino 75 or Hatta are the only two that match

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009
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    Here's an excerpt from the londonfgss.com transmission database:

    Sugino 75
    Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
    Sugino 75 + Miche + Royce + EAI = kowalski
    Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap
    Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
    Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
    Sugino 75 + Phil (110.5) + Phil + EAI Superstar = Object
    Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
    Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
    Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
    Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
    Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
    Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
    Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
    Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus

    The Miche BB works well to get a 42mm chainline.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009
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    The Miche is 107mm. The actual Sugino or Hatta BB is 109mm.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009
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    There are some real bargins in the Planet X clearance sale at the moment. There are 38cm cromo B125s for £20. Handy if you are a slender rider like myself. There were 2 listed in stock and I just bought one, but still 2 listed so I might not get it.

    I'm trying not to jump on the £50 Nitto NJS72 seatpost as well. £50 instead of the £100 at Hubjub.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2009
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    Who broke the forum? The quote function has gone.

    The miche primato bb is 107 but the right cup don't have a flange so it's adjustable to a degree. If it is sitting 1mm to the right of centre your chainring will sit where it would on a 109 but your left crank will be 2mm to the right of where it would on a 109. I don't see that as a big problem and they are less than £12 from wiggle but youll need a Campag fitting tool not shimano.