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I know there's a few Lemond Fillmore's that have been spotted knocking about, but I can't remember off the top of my head if anyone on here rides one; I'm sure they'll be along shortly if they do.

If you're happy with it, then don't worry about the buyer's remorse, I'm sure it'll be grand. ;-)

Looks like Uwe's Grandad had one, but might have sold it.

Looks like a good bike to me. There are plenty of OTP bikes to cheese from in that price bracket and, apart from personal preference of course, there isn't a lot to differentiate between them.

Ride it and enjoy it!

Oh, and welcome!

Aye, that too. Welcome to the forums.

One of the couriers on Sunday had a Filmore. Not a bad choice at all. Welcome to the forum.

Me and Velonoir both work in alpine. theres a few staff menbers that have fillmores. the only things i would say is that like all of the peg singlespeed/fixed bikes, the wheelset leaves a little to be desired and the finishing kit could allways be a little lighter, other than that, there good little go-ers!

Thanks guys! I know bikes have such a wallet-draining potential its scary at times. It would've seemed ridiculous not too long ago for £400 to've been considered getting you something "approaching decent" or whatever. Every single person I've spoken to about getting a single-speed in the past year has told me I'm mad to even think about it, but the desire for one kept hanging around and I thought, "the hell with it". Glad I did

You've obviously been speaking to the wrong people!

yes sounds like youve been mixing with the wrong crowd my son

Those people are not your friends.

Don't worry, we'll see you right.

This is some kind of cult, isn't it? Do I have to learn the "knowing nod" as I pass another s/speeder?

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]Do I have to learn the "knowing nod" as I pass another s/speeder?
It's more of a Madison style sling hand-shake ;)

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]This is some kind of cult, isn't it? Do I have to learn the "knowing nod" as I pass another s/speeder?

no but if you wanna sign over all your money and possesions thats fine too.

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]This is some kind of cult, isn't it? Do I have to learn the "knowing nod" as I pass another s/speeder?

Assimilate and do not question. All your base are belong to us now.

Just to add to what BSB said, the filmore is an excellent bike, especially at the £350 price. While the wheels are nothing too fancy they are durable and servicable (and a damn sight better than some other OTP wheelsets I've seen). I don't own one but have had a wee scoot round on them and sold a few with nothing but positive feedback. I should also say that it is one of the few OTP bikes that looks like right. Horizontal top tubes FTW.

[quote]Horizontal top tubes FTW.

So true.

[quote][cite] velonoir:[/cite]Horizontal top tubes FTW.

I love my Langster!



(I'm perfectly aware it's as ugly as all of the sin, but - apart from the wheels, which still aren't as bad as people say - it's a great bike to ride.)

Cool. Did notice a little creaking fom the wheels on a cold night coming downhill at speed. Is this the spokes settle-in under loading?

Yeh sounds like it. the spokes sometimes become a little twisted when your truing them under tension, so when they are loaded and unloaded (i.e. durin riding) they untwist themselves. I would just check that they are still true after this un-twisting has happened.

[quote][cite] Bank_street_baller:[/cite]Yeh sounds like it. the spokes sometimes become a little twisted when your truing them under tension, so when they are loaded and unloaded (i.e. durin riding) they untwist themselves. I would just check that they are still true after this un-twisting has happened.
This is something I want to do/have done. Get my wheels all trued up and tensioned.

there's certainly no obvious rim-wobble. Might not have noticed it in traffic or with a derailleur

[quote][cite] rusty:[/cite]
This is something I want to do/have done. Get my wheels all trued up and tensioned.

I need to get my rear retensioned. Its not quite true or as round anymore.

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite][quote][cite] rusty:[/cite]
This is something I want to do/have done. Get my wheels all trued up and tensioned.

I need to get my rear retensioned. Its not quite true or as round anymore.

Sounds serious !

Nah, you are talking about very slight wobble. Totally ridable.

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite]Nah, you are talking about very slight wobble. Totally ridable.

i think he was making a joke at the expense of rusty's not true or round rear!!

It wasn't my non-true non-round rear. It was euan's.

[quote][cite] rusty:[/cite]It wasn't my non-true non-round rear. It was euan's.

oh yeah. see that now.

Still Ridable though apparently

[quote][cite] George:[/cite]Still Ridable though apparently

saucy!!

I'm open to offers. I have a Dura Ace crankset to pay for.

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite]I need to get my rear retensioned. Its not quite true or as round anymore.

[quote][cite] George:[/cite]Sounds serious !

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite]Nah, you are talking about very slight wobble. Totally ridable.

[quote][cite] George:[/cite]Still Ridable though apparently

LOL!

So, what's the main difference in geometry between a track and a road/racing bike? I don't know how to tell, apart from top-frame angle, which is pretty vague and/or wrong

The bottom bracket is higher and the seat-tube angle is steeper.

You can usually tell buy what the clearance of for the wheels is too. If the clearance is tight, it's likely a track frame.

Ok. Just on Rivendell's site www.rivbike.com and intrigued by the differences. Is the bb height to just get you into the tuck more easily without having a stupidly long seatpost? (I'm 5' 6" and have short legs, so I'm not your typical Fixie-rider)

Higher bb is for more clearance on the banking of tracks.

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]I'm not your typical Fixie-rider
You're not an art school student?

:-) Inexplicably carrying in equal proportions, the aura of being both self-contained and needing validation from his peer-group!

not as much rake on the forks, no mudguard clearance, no bottle holes, hangers, eyelets etc.

I can see the ethos/logic now. BTW, I've got a weird spacing issue on this PC, so the first 3 words of every line are missing, so I might take things slightly out of context at times....

You can have all of those on the Bob Jackson and that is a track frame :)

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite]You can have all of those on the Bob Jackson and that is a track frame :)
But it's not what one would describe as a 'Balls-out Track Frame™'

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]I can see the ethos/logic now. BTW, I've got a weird spacing issue on this PC, so the first 3 words of every line are missing, so I might take things slightly out of context at times....

upgrade your IE or use mozilla. sorted.

And more the shame. Against everything I've ever said about the UCI, I do wish they would apply the same rules to track racing as they do the Hour Record.

[quote][cite] euan:[/cite]And more the shame. Against everything I've ever said about the UCI, I do wish they would apply the same rules to track racing as they do the Hour Record.
I think that would be brilliant. I'd like to see the UCI take a leaf out of the NJSs book. Just imagine all of the classic cinelli components which would be produced as a result.

Super record would be where I'd call the cut. Anything produced according to patents filed after 1985 is banned:

Nah. You could do it by specifying weight, geometry, tube diameter and material. Minimum amount of spokes and a maximum rim depth.

Yeah, but my way is cooler and helps the economy by re-using machines for making old components to stricter manufacturing tolerances.

I'm online at work and not really supposed to be....can't change the settings! Can follow most of what's said and I should be able to get to a Sat meet in a few weeks, to put names to faces (or vice cersa!)

[quote][cite] Scottish Steve:[/cite]I'm online at work and not really supposed to be....can't change the settings! Can follow most of what's said and I should be able to get to a Sat meet in a few weeks, to put names to faces (or vice cersa!)

tuesday night is better for meeting up with folks. saturday is for the roadies out there.

[quote][cite] conn artist:[/cite]tuesday night is better for meeting up with folks. saturday is for the real men.
Fixed.