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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Track standing is definitely not something that comes naturally to anyone and takes practice. Some people get it quite quickly and are confident to use the skill in all conditions. Some people never get it.

    Today I went to Queens Park to conquer my fear of 'clipped in track standing'. Until today I was able to 'do it', just not in a real-life situation whilst clipped in to my pedals. I actually found it easier to do with my feat locked in a specific position. One of the major variables with track standing on flat pedals for me was where my feet were on the pedals.

    So there are three categories here:

    Track stand Master:

    Can Track stand but not well enough to do it regularly:
    1. rusty (but as of today I'll be track-standing more often in traffic)

    Can't Track stand:

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      CommentAuthorconn artist
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
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    i was able to do it pretty easily within about a monthish of startin riding fixedn it clicked over the easter weekender and was in the post all that week. seemed pointless to do it not clipped in/strapped do it all the time in traffic now and only had one dodgy almost falling moment, this afternoon infact when cycling with smout as i was chatting to him. the backward circle is next to conquer....

    EDIT. i can only do it with my right foot forward and left back. the same mentality i would say about skateboarding or snowboarding. still to move onto no hands etc...

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    As long as you like with my good foot forward, one hand and almost as solid no hands. Bit shakier on the other foot though, need to practise on it more.

    I began to get competent within a couple of weeks of practising slow circles.

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      CommentAuthorkrakow
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Currently: Can't at all.

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      CommentAuthorlee
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Can, but i think my longest was about a minute or so...

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Nup. Never really tried. But I secretly suspect I would be *awesome* if I put a bit of effort in… :D I was a competitive gymnast when a kid, and I was a beam specialist, so my balance was always pretty sound.

    That said… too scared to try in case of the inevitable embarrassment at the lights.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    I freak it when I'm clipless, clips and straps I'm more comfortable with.

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      CommentAuthormajooka
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Can track stand pretty well with right foot forward, left foot fwd's still a bit shaky. Can kinda do it no handed as well, but not for long :P Though on the fixie it's not clipped in, just toe clips.
    Started using road camber to trackstand on the road bike which has SPD-SLs on it - there's no escape if that goes wrong!

    Used to think it was a pretty pointless skill, but now realise that it's hugely handy at lights to be able to get going as soon as you can. Stops cars from whizzing by you quite as fast.

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      CommentAuthorNMK
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
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    Yup. I am at one with my machine.

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      CommentAuthorGraeme_B
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I've only managed out on my fixie last Saturday. Though I'm sure with a bit of practice it won't be hard. tried some very very slow riding and think this will be tomorrows evening, spent in Glasgow green trying them

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Graeme_B:I've only managed out on my fixie last Saturday. Though I'm sure with a bit of practice it won't be hard. tried some very very slow riding and think this will be tomorrows evening, spent in Glasgow green trying them

    That's the first step. Riding very slowly in a circle.

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      CommentAuthorkrakow
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I'd like to practice deliberately falling over without freaking out and injuring myself as well.

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    i can trackstand when practicing but havent got the confidence to do it on the roads yet.

    its definately something i need to practice!

    anyone got any tips except.. practice more

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    trailstar:anyone got any tips except.. practice more

    Spray some of this on your pedals.

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    Track stand Master:

    Can Track stand but not well enough to do it regularly:
    1. rusty (but as of today I'll be track-standing more often in traffic)
    2. Johnny Crash (I have terrible balance - too many bangs on the head.)

    Can't Track stand:

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      CommentAuthorGraeme_B
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    krakow:I'd like to practice deliberately falling over without freaking out and injuring myself as well.

    Like an only fools and horses at the bar effort?

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    krakow:I'd like to practice deliberately falling over without freaking out and injuring myself as well.

    That's what I did last night in Queens Park. The grass is pretty weird to do it on because your wheels get stuck in the ruts you make.

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    rusty:
    That's what I did last night in Queens Park. The grass is pretty weird to do it on because your wheels get stuck in the ruts you make.

    It's easier to trackstand on on smooth surface though, and for all the times I lost it when learning I never actually hit myself off the ground.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    ithinkitsnice:

    It's easier to trackstand on on smooth surface though, and for all the times I lost it when learning I never actually hit myself off the ground.

    Yeah, I realised this after about two seconds on the grass. I quickly moved to the tarmac. There's something very zen about an evening spent track standing in a quiet area of a park.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Start off in a door way. if you fall you can catch yourself with your shoulders. When you feel brave move out into your hall.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    euan:Start off in a door way. if you fall you can catch yourself with your shoulders. When you feel brave move out into your hall.

    I did that when I was starting out. Bad idea. I think it's best to have nothing around you.

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    euan:Start off in a door way. if you fall you can catch yourself with your shoulders. When you feel brave move out into your hall.

    pah, just start off clipped in and on the street it will recreate the pain when you fall for real and you'll be familiar with it ;)

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    I have a drive with a slight incline and that's good to practice on once you move from the hall.

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    What with the cycling backwards, and conn artist teaching me to skid in Pollok Park, my legs are a fucking state not seen since I was a kid climbing trees. Fucking bruises and grazes all over me. I think the trackstand practice will have to wait.

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    years ago i was standing beside a proper roady at a set of lights in Milgavie.. he was trackstanding i was just leaning on a barrier beside the lights on my mtb... he fell over, i actually havent laughed so hard at someone falling over for years. Even the rider was laughing.

    its a weird sort of crash, because your clipped in.. not moving forwards you just sorta.. fall sideways and there is fuck all you can do about it

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      CommentAuthorkrakow
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I think overcoming the natural reaction to try and unclip when it's already too late would be useful, as you end up landing with your ankle all twisted trying to get your foot out. I wonder if it's best to accept it when it's inevitable and try to fall straight over? Thoughts...?

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    trailstar:years ago i was standing beside a proper roady at a set of lights in Milgavie.. he was trackstanding i was just leaning on a barrier beside the lights on my mtb... he fell over, i actually havent laughed so hard at someone falling over for years. Even the rider was laughing.

    its a weird sort of crash, because your clipped in.. not moving forwards you just sorta.. fall sideways and there is fuck all you can do about it

    plurabelle had that same kinda fall on sat (sorry) and rabsda had a belter of one like that going into the car park they play polo in. i told him to duck twice as his mallet was gonna hit the sign saying he was too tall. he never listened.....although i never laughed outloud i did in my head. it is bizarre kind of fall almost in slow motion.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    krakow:I think overcoming the natural reaction to try and unclip when it's already too late would be useful, as you end up landing with your ankle all twisted trying to get your foot out. I wonder if it's best to accept it when it's inevitable and try to fall straight over? Thoughts...?

    Any sort of fall on the bike I find it is best to stay with the bike.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    euan:

    Any sort of fall on the bike I find it is best to stay with the bike.

    It's quite comical seeing someone trying to ditch the bike mid-fall.

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    rusty:
    It's quite comical seeing someone trying to ditch the bike mid-fall.

    I usually end up with groin strain from putting a cleated foot down mid fall. :(

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Fucking groin strains. I've still got mine though it is substantially better than it was. Its going to be one of those reoccurring injuries I think.

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    touch wood i've not had a fall on my fixed gear yet.

    come fucking close though, but usually from car doors opening etc.

    think i'll try some trackstanding tonight. So no doubt i will report back with cuts and bruises.

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    trailstar:touch wood i've not had a fall on my fixed gear yet.

    come fucking close though, but usually from car doors opening etc.

    think i'll try some trackstanding tonight. So no doubt i will report back with cuts and bruises.

    come out to fixed beer instead. big slope at about 6ish?

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    i actually work 500yards away from big slope. However my bike is in tatters and needs a bit of love. Doubt it'll be shipshape before 8.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I find this quite difficult to orchestrate at the lights.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I think track standing on a tricycle is cheating a bit.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    I was thinking more about the top half.

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    quite a chainring

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Nae slack chain comments?

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      CommentAuthorNMK
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Turns out I'm not quite as one with my bike as possible. Almost came off at the lights on Hope St this morning when using left foot in front of right.

    I think you develop the skill quicker without breaks. You find the balance on your bike quicker, imo.

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009 edited
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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    nmk:I think you develop the skill quicker without breaks. You find the balance on your bike quicker, imo.

    I find it easier to start a trackstand by stopping without brakes. Going from brake applied to balancing on the bike is quite difficult I find.

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      CommentAuthoreuan
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Where is that video video of the guys trackstanding on a tandem when you need it?

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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      CommentAuthorMcduck
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Would normally say 'master' but have realised no-handies are all about the headset. The old ones sort of hold the wheel at the 45degree angle but more modern ones collapse in on themselves crucial point. Fucking infuriating. Has anyone else found this?

    My current bikes only have the latter leaving me well annoyed for it was one of my few 'skills' and as I cannae get 'through the bars' for a ninja skid due to my unneccesarily long legs a huge depression is upon me!

    I learned on a tiny gear (42x18) which made doing it on a normal gear a skoosh as the pedals are much less sensitive.

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      CommentAuthorreg
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Can track stand right foot forward. learned on my old mountain bike a while ago, where the camber of the road was crucial. starting to go backwards now with the fixed, using the left foot to push down. would love to do a full circle but i dont htink i have it in me. 1 hand is easy cos you just use the front of the saddle between your thighs to control the frame. cant work out why left foot forward is so difficult, it just feels odd......

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      CommentAuthorvelonoir
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
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    Am I the only person who just puts their feet down when they lose balance trackstanding? I don't think I've ever lost balance so catastrophically that I wasn't able to get a foot down. For some reason I've never really had a problem with trackstands, can't say I've ever really tried to do backwards circles or had much case to trackstand left foot forward but if I'm bored at the lights now.... well who knows.

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      CommentAuthorSoweto888
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2009 edited
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    velonoir:Am I the only person who just puts their feet down when they lose balance trackstanding?

    Nah, I always manage to unclip before the point of no return. That's half the attraction of MTB pedals.

    To be honest though, I tend not to bother trackstanding at lights and stuff. I just unclip and stop. It makes life easier and eliminates the risk of potentially embarrassing wobbles. Being different has an appeal all of its own too. Pedestrians and motorists aren't used to seeing someone actually put their foot down, so admiring glances and gasps of disbelief are guaranteed. :-)

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      CommentAuthorsuhinaffy
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
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    i find it best to focus on a point on the ground straight ahead , i can trackstand for a good wee while , i can do half circles and straight lines backwards , just havent mastered cycling in circles in reverse for hours at a time .
    i use left foot forward to balance too.

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      CommentAuthorislipaway
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    Better to focus on something in the middle distance I find.