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      CommentAuthorlee
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
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    If anyone is interested in having a say about the future of cycling in Scotland, could you please visit here, read the action plan and fill out a response form?

    Cheers...

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
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    done.

    The photograph on page 22 of the PDF (marked 17 on the page) is described as showing a cycle friendly junction. It instead encourages the cyclist to take a dangerous line if they play to take anything other than the first junction.

    To direct cyclists to try and continue straight on by going down the left hand side of traffic which is turning left is shocking. The number of deaths in London I have read about this year alone caused by HGVs and other vehicles "left hook"ing cyclists is shocking.

    I hoped that we would be looking to discourage such dangerous road positioning, not direct it.

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      CommentAuthortrailstar
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    that junction is pretty insane. The cycle route should direct up inbetween the two lanes.

    response form filled out

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      CommentAuthorfrog
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    The problem with that roundabout is the way drivers over here would act. The set up in the picture is pretty much what they have all over holland, the difference being that there bikes have right of way and all drivers adhere to the rules (without acting like you are some kind of trogladite)

    I feel a little sorry for the people who've produced the plan, as I'm sure there are a lot of good intentions, but suggestions like 'Converting footways and footpaths to shared-use paths' are just piecemeal measures, and don't/won't work. The approach to cycling in Scotland is demonstrated by the Clydeside cycle path - fragmented and disjointed. Getting people cycling needs thought, investment, and properly designed and constructed (ie smooth) cycle lanes - not just shoving cycle lanes wherever there is a smidgin more than the minimum carriageway or pathway width, or painting nice white bicycles on heavy-goods-vehicle (bus) lanes.

    Its frustrating, as i'd love to see more than the hardy few out on bikes, but i can't see it happening until there is a sea change in how cycling is treated by politicians and the larger public and seen for what it is - cheap tansport that keeps you fit, gets you home safe, without killing penguins, and leaves you some money for a pint in your back pocket.

    sorry for the essay...

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      CommentAuthorplurabelle
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    Good post, frog.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    Totally agree with frog. It's attitudes that need changed. Motorists should be educated, it should be pointed out to them that if everyone on a bike was in a car instead journey times would increase due to additional traffic. People who commute by bike reduce the amount of traffic therefore improve the traffic flow.

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      CommentAuthorGetafix
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
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    Similar situation to the junction rabsda pointed out.

    And it's from our old friend magnatom.

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      CommentAuthoraffinity
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2009 edited
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    there is a good internet sight in america for this sort of thing i email it to begining cyclists to assits there road positioning
    (il link it when i get home from work)

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      CommentAuthoraffinity
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    here is the link

    http://bicyclesafe.com/

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      CommentAuthorlee
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
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    A long but interesting report for the Scottish Transport Committee, from transport consultancy Steer Davies Gleave, Spokes, Cycling Scotland, Scottish Cycling and the CTC.

    This is part of the Scottish parliaments CAPS initiative to have a 10% increase in cycling by 2020:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/scotland/newsid_8290000/8290658.stm

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      CommentAuthorkillersim
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
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    there are problems like this everywhere here in Boston. I guess i'll be well rounded for when i get out there.
    I think it really is an issue with the drivers more then the provisions for cycling. That bike lane in the video, though it is a problem with the turn lane, is still really prominent. The car should expect that the cyclist isnt going to turn with them.
    I think in a case like that the only thing to do is be aggressive on the bike and be aware of the people around you.
    Its unfortunate but i think cars see bike lanes as a way to defend their own dumb actions when something does go wrong or a cyclist is in their way.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
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    lee:A long but interesting report for the Scottish Transport Committee, from transport consultancy Steer Davies Gleave, Spokes, Cycling Scotland, Scottish Cycling and the CTC.

    This is part of the Scottish parliaments CAPS initiative to have a 10% increase in cycling by 2020:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/scotland/newsid_8290000/8290658.stm

    I've just reached the the part of the video where they're looking for an example of a cycle culture in a town in Scotland. When I'm on my bike I see loads of other cyclists. I'd say Glasgow is at least getting quite close to having a cycling culture. It's nothing like Oxford, Cambridge or London but it'll never be like any of them because people come in to Glasgow from quite far out and the road links are good for cars. Put parking prices through the roof and you'll find a lot more people on bikes.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2009
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    This committee is full of idiots. One of them was saying that the main reason that Pedal for Scotland is gaining in popularity is because of the "increased number of road closures". There was about 2 miles of road closures. It's highly unlikely that that was the reason for most people doing it.

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    rusty:This committee is full of idiots. One of them was saying that the main reason that Pedal for Scotland is gaining in popularity is because of the "increased number of road closures". There was about 2 miles of road closures. It's highly unlikely that that was the reason for most people doing it.

    Agreed, The sheer stupidity of some parties is amusing, the speaker answers the question they ask previously, one thing i have noticed from learning about areas of politics is there people do not actually read the proposal thoroughly, the most startling thing really has to be, is will the capital needed for investment really be brought to the table, with the escalating costs in road infrastructure, and the commonwealth games.
    Its scary to think that those countries, we class as not economically advanced as us are so much further ahead, i mean eastern and middle Europe have a better cycling network than the UK, which frankly i find scary.

    Rant over.

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2010
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    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Recently you submitted a response to a public consultation on the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland (CAPS). The analysis of these responses is now complete. Both the responses and the analysis have been published on the Scottish Government website and can be found here.

    Responses - http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2010/01/06144535/0

    Analysis - http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2010/01/07095233/0

    Please note that your response will only have been published if you had filled out a completed Respondent Information Form (RIF), stating that it was acceptable for us to do so. Furthermore, your name and address will only have been published if you gave permission to do so; otherwise your response will have been published anonymously. However, all responses were considered in the Analysis. Thanking You,

    Kind Regards,
    Dynesh Vijayaraghavan

    Dynesh Vijayaraghavan
    Sustainable Transport team
    Scottish Government,
    Victoria Quay, Edinburgh EH6 6QQ
    0131 244 0846
    dynesh.vijayaraghavan@scotland.gsi.gov.uk

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2010
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    you can read my response if you know my real name.

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      CommentAuthorrusty
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2010
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    I read your response and it's pretty much the same response that I would have given. I skimmed the summary of the analysis but this whole thing just goes to show how much money and time gets dumped on research before anything is actually done that we notice on the streets. I'd rather they did it this way than just letting the councils do what they want but it seems to be a very long process.

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      CommentAuthorotherjames
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2010
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    caps"If your employer introduced the Bike to Work Scheme would this encourage you to take up cycling?"

    I know that every single person who filled in this survey is already a cyclist.

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      CommentAuthorrabsda
    • CommentTimeJan 8th 2010
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    not necessarily. I think they asked you to tick a box for how oftn you cycle and what type of cycling. They probably mention the breakdown.

    I think the analysis of the feedback shows that it was a useful thing to undertake and should result in some good moves and things.

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